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<blockquote data-quote="95Prober" data-source="post: 2082884" data-attributes="member: 557984"><p>[quote name='headless;2137690</p><p></p><p>Isn't that a bit contradictary there? You were indeed talking about jogging and tried to make a case that hardrive players are not designed to handle the "rigors" of jogging. That's ********.</p><p></p><p><strong>no its NOT ********. yuo were the one to suddenly bring nano into the argument' date=' WTF?? like i said fo rthe SECOND time, i could care less about the nano!!! i was comparing between ipod and iriver hard drives. what part of that cant you understand?? the nano is a piece of crap anyway!!</strong></p><p></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p></p><p><strong>fact is, NO hard drive player can take the daily abuse of exercise, coz down the road it wont last, ESPECIALLY a fragile ipod.[/b']</strong></p><p></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p></p><p><strong>Harddrive players don't keep their drives spinning constantly. Even CD players don't keep their CD's spinning constanty these days; they buffer to memory and spin the disc down. I'd bet good money if you took an ipod and dropped it from shoulder height 3 times, even while playing a track, the harddrive would be totally undamaged. Why? Because unless the player is actively reading a track, it spins the drive down and parks the heads. At that point it's good for over 350g's of shock without any damage; you'd have to chuck it at something with some force to damage it, and it probably wouldn't be the drive that was the source of failure for the player even then. You might get unlucky and catch the player reading the next track right as you drop it, but even then, you may be fairly surprised at the amount of force it takes the skip the drive head off of the disk, especially in these mini drives which are designed around mobile (and thus abusive) environments. Yes, i do listen to my stereo daily, loud enough to make **** in my car vibrate and buzz and 'hop around' slightly...quarters slide off my roof at normal listening volume. I expect most people on this forum listen to their stereos at volumes that produce fairly extensive vibrations on a daily basis. I'd also be more worried about standing up from the car with the drive-based player on my lap and having it fall on pavement outside the car than i would be worried about dropping it or having it fall out of my pocket while jogging. In any case, neither excessive bass vibrations nor jogging is going to destroy a micro-drive powered mp3 player; sorry to burst your bubble. </strong></p><p></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p></p><p><strong>how about YOU test that out for us if youre so confident. ill sit back and laugh as your whole ipod starts falling apart. hard drive may be ok for a few drops, but the rest of the player wont look too hot:laugh: </strong></p><p></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p></p><p><strong>how do you know what players i do or do not have experience with, and how are you 'sure' you're 'more qualified' to based your opinions on the players? That's quite an arrogant assumption, wouldn't you say? </strong></p><p></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p></p><p><strong>no its not ignorant, icoz i know for a fact you dont have an H340 and an ipod 60GB to compare side by side as i do. so i guess im right again<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> </strong></p><p></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p></p><p><strong>Anyway, you missed the point of my original post and are fixating on 'joggers' and players. If you'll recall my original post, my reasons for finding these little players are not designed around a car stereo were not that of vibrations or damage to the players, but instead:</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>1. lack of a remote; when was the last time you bought a deck without a remote? Why should an mp3 player for your car be different?</strong></p><p></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p></p><p><strong>youre actually asking ME why i pick on joggers??? how about you and never shutting up about a remote for the car??? i was arguing that the ipod has no remote for daily usage, NOT IN THE CAR. i dont know why youre fixated on your words about a remote for the car??? i wasnt even talking about that. your head must be in another universe. irivers come with the remote for daily outside of car use, and th eipod doesnt, simple as that!</strong></p><p></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p></p><p><strong>2. Lack of quality sound output; why spend hundreds (thousands in my case) of dollars on high quality speakers, amplifiers and a headunit, then pass it a low quality signal from a stereo miniplug on a portable player?</strong></p><p></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p></p><p><strong>that was a dumb statement! unlike the ipod, iriver has true LINE-IN / LINE-OUT features. so lets hear your suggestion how youre supposed to get a more clearer signal. you cant! thats the best way! </strong></p><p></p><p><strong>i supposse you have the cassette adapter connected to your portable cd player do you?</strong>//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif </p><p></p><p><strong>3. . Still, no flac support makes it less than an ideal purchase for me. </strong></p><p></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p></p><p><strong>why do i need FLAC? LOL</strong></p><p></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p></p><p><strong> Lack of upgradeable storage also makes it a poor choice for a car player; 40gb, 60gb is fine for a portable player full of low quality mp3s that you dock with your PC all the time </strong></p><p></p><p><strong>.</strong></p><p></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p></p><p><strong>lack of upgradable storage?? WTF??? i already upgraded my H340 hard drive to an 80GB HAHA!! your comment makes no sense!</strong></p><p></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p></p><p><strong>also, if you knew anything about mp3's which i assume you dont, you would know that there is an excellent ripping program called EAC which rips cd's to basically the exact disk quality. and if you wanna start an argument about its not exact. do a blind test and i guarantee if you use the program correctly, youll never tell the difference betwen the ripped song and cd song. then again, im not sure your brain could handle all the program set-up. your best off listening to your cassettes so you dont get confused:laugh: </strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="95Prober, post: 2082884, member: 557984"] [quote name='headless;2137690 Isn't that a bit contradictary there? You were indeed talking about jogging and tried to make a case that hardrive players are not designed to handle the "rigors" of jogging. That's ********. [B]no its NOT ********. yuo were the one to suddenly bring nano into the argument' date=' WTF?? like i said fo rthe SECOND time, i could care less about the nano!!! i was comparing between ipod and iriver hard drives. what part of that cant you understand?? the nano is a piece of crap anyway!![/B] [B] [/B] [B]fact is, NO hard drive player can take the daily abuse of exercise, coz down the road it wont last, ESPECIALLY a fragile ipod.[/b'][/B] [B] [/B] [B] [/B] [B] [/B] [B]Harddrive players don't keep their drives spinning constantly. Even CD players don't keep their CD's spinning constanty these days; they buffer to memory and spin the disc down. I'd bet good money if you took an ipod and dropped it from shoulder height 3 times, even while playing a track, the harddrive would be totally undamaged. Why? Because unless the player is actively reading a track, it spins the drive down and parks the heads. At that point it's good for over 350g's of shock without any damage; you'd have to chuck it at something with some force to damage it, and it probably wouldn't be the drive that was the source of failure for the player even then. You might get unlucky and catch the player reading the next track right as you drop it, but even then, you may be fairly surprised at the amount of force it takes the skip the drive head off of the disk, especially in these mini drives which are designed around mobile (and thus abusive) environments. Yes, i do listen to my stereo daily, loud enough to make **** in my car vibrate and buzz and 'hop around' slightly...quarters slide off my roof at normal listening volume. I expect most people on this forum listen to their stereos at volumes that produce fairly extensive vibrations on a daily basis. I'd also be more worried about standing up from the car with the drive-based player on my lap and having it fall on pavement outside the car than i would be worried about dropping it or having it fall out of my pocket while jogging. In any case, neither excessive bass vibrations nor jogging is going to destroy a micro-drive powered mp3 player; sorry to burst your bubble. [/B] [B] [/B] [B]how about YOU test that out for us if youre so confident. ill sit back and laugh as your whole ipod starts falling apart. hard drive may be ok for a few drops, but the rest of the player wont look too hot:laugh: [/B] [B] [/B] [B] [/B] [B]how do you know what players i do or do not have experience with, and how are you 'sure' you're 'more qualified' to based your opinions on the players? That's quite an arrogant assumption, wouldn't you say? [/B] [B] [/B] [B]no its not ignorant, icoz i know for a fact you dont have an H340 and an ipod 60GB to compare side by side as i do. so i guess im right again:) [/B] [B] [/B] [B]Anyway, you missed the point of my original post and are fixating on 'joggers' and players. If you'll recall my original post, my reasons for finding these little players are not designed around a car stereo were not that of vibrations or damage to the players, but instead:[/B] [B]1. lack of a remote; when was the last time you bought a deck without a remote? Why should an mp3 player for your car be different?[/B] [B] [/B] [B]youre actually asking ME why i pick on joggers??? how about you and never shutting up about a remote for the car??? i was arguing that the ipod has no remote for daily usage, NOT IN THE CAR. i dont know why youre fixated on your words about a remote for the car??? i wasnt even talking about that. your head must be in another universe. irivers come with the remote for daily outside of car use, and th eipod doesnt, simple as that![/B] [B] [/B] [B]2. Lack of quality sound output; why spend hundreds (thousands in my case) of dollars on high quality speakers, amplifiers and a headunit, then pass it a low quality signal from a stereo miniplug on a portable player?[/B] [B] [/B] [B]that was a dumb statement! unlike the ipod, iriver has true LINE-IN / LINE-OUT features. so lets hear your suggestion how youre supposed to get a more clearer signal. you cant! thats the best way! [/B] [B]i supposse you have the cassette adapter connected to your portable cd player do you?[/B][IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif[/IMG][B] [/B] [B]3. . Still, no flac support makes it less than an ideal purchase for me. [/B] [B] [/B] [B]why do i need FLAC? LOL[/B] [B] [/B] [B] Lack of upgradeable storage also makes it a poor choice for a car player; 40gb, 60gb is fine for a portable player full of low quality mp3s that you dock with your PC all the time [/B] [B].[/B] [B] [/B] [B]lack of upgradable storage?? WTF??? i already upgraded my H340 hard drive to an 80GB HAHA!! your comment makes no sense![/B] [B] [/B] [B]also, if you knew anything about mp3's which i assume you dont, you would know that there is an excellent ripping program called EAC which rips cd's to basically the exact disk quality. and if you wanna start an argument about its not exact. do a blind test and i guarantee if you use the program correctly, youll never tell the difference betwen the ripped song and cd song. then again, im not sure your brain could handle all the program set-up. your best off listening to your cassettes so you dont get confused:laugh: [/B] [/QUOTE]
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