boostd92
Junior Member
Hi,
I've started building a modest system for my 95 M3 coupe. The subwoofer I picked is not doing the job and I think I need something bigger/badder. I thought buying a Pioneer sub with a sealed enclosure already around it directly from Pioneer would give me the tightest bass response but I'm not happy with the output. What I have:
Head Unit: Sony GS Series MEXGS810BH CD Car Stereo HD Receiver with Bluetooth, NFC and App Remote
Amplifier: MB Quart OA1100.5 1100-Watt 5-Channel Onyx Series
Subwoofer: PIONEER TSSWX2502 10-Inch Shallow-Mount Pre-Loaded Enclosure Sub Woofer
Rear deck speakers: Polk Audio DB691 6-by-9-Inch 3-Way Speakers
Front door speakers: Stock BMW (had to use audiopipe 3 channel xovers after amp to send signals to separate tweeter and midrange in the door and midbass in the kickpanel). The tweeters and midbass are old (the midbass's are probably shot), and the midrange in the doors are new OEM BMW units.
I didn't do my research on how they would all work together. I'm not too concerned with the interior speakers (for now). The sub just doesn't hit hard even with the level and bass boost all the way up. It's got a lot of things going wrong for it - it's shallow mount and downward firing (into the carpet of the trunk) and it's 4ohm SVC.. my amp is rated for 500w x 1 for the sub channel at 1 or 2 ohm so I'm guessing I'm not getting the power out of it anyway.
What I listen to mostly is Heavy Metal. I love the hard bass drum kick and need a sub that can keep up with fast double bass drum pedals. I want it *tight*.
The hard part is that I also listen to Hip-Hop from time to time. While I was testing the sub I have, it could keep up with the Metal okay but double bass sounded a little muddy (again, I have the amp cranked up to hear it - it doesn't even vibrate my interior mirror). What I really hated was when I put on rap/hip-hop there is a VERY noticeable amount of low low bass that the sub just doesn't reproduce.. below a certain note/hertz I can hear the vibration of the sub trying to do something but no real bass comes out.
I decided that my goals when building the system were too modest and I do want a sub that can crank (if I want it to). I don't want to change my AMP (it's installed upside-down under the rear deck and it would be HELL to remove again).
I want a sub that can reproduce ALL the low bass in rap songs I listen to, but I also want a sub that can react quick enough to do heavy metal duty.
I'm thinking I want a 15" DVC sub since it should be able to go the lowest and I'll put it in the smallest sealed enclosure it would be rated for. This is the one I'm looking at specifically:
Alpine SWR-1522D Type-R 15" subwoofer with dual 2-ohm voice coils at Crutchfield.com
Any suggestions/comments? I was told that if I want that bass drum "pop/snap" that a lot of the preceived "tightness" comes from the mid-bass speakers (the crack-off of the drumstick hitting the drum). I need to replace the 5.25" midbass in the front kick panels, but the stock BMW speaker is very shallow and I don't want to cut up the car. At most, I'll replace them with new OEM units. Would this help?
The sub seemed to get really great reviews everywhere I searched on loudness and crispness... am I going overboard?
I've started building a modest system for my 95 M3 coupe. The subwoofer I picked is not doing the job and I think I need something bigger/badder. I thought buying a Pioneer sub with a sealed enclosure already around it directly from Pioneer would give me the tightest bass response but I'm not happy with the output. What I have:
Head Unit: Sony GS Series MEXGS810BH CD Car Stereo HD Receiver with Bluetooth, NFC and App Remote
Amplifier: MB Quart OA1100.5 1100-Watt 5-Channel Onyx Series
Subwoofer: PIONEER TSSWX2502 10-Inch Shallow-Mount Pre-Loaded Enclosure Sub Woofer
Rear deck speakers: Polk Audio DB691 6-by-9-Inch 3-Way Speakers
Front door speakers: Stock BMW (had to use audiopipe 3 channel xovers after amp to send signals to separate tweeter and midrange in the door and midbass in the kickpanel). The tweeters and midbass are old (the midbass's are probably shot), and the midrange in the doors are new OEM BMW units.
I didn't do my research on how they would all work together. I'm not too concerned with the interior speakers (for now). The sub just doesn't hit hard even with the level and bass boost all the way up. It's got a lot of things going wrong for it - it's shallow mount and downward firing (into the carpet of the trunk) and it's 4ohm SVC.. my amp is rated for 500w x 1 for the sub channel at 1 or 2 ohm so I'm guessing I'm not getting the power out of it anyway.
What I listen to mostly is Heavy Metal. I love the hard bass drum kick and need a sub that can keep up with fast double bass drum pedals. I want it *tight*.
The hard part is that I also listen to Hip-Hop from time to time. While I was testing the sub I have, it could keep up with the Metal okay but double bass sounded a little muddy (again, I have the amp cranked up to hear it - it doesn't even vibrate my interior mirror). What I really hated was when I put on rap/hip-hop there is a VERY noticeable amount of low low bass that the sub just doesn't reproduce.. below a certain note/hertz I can hear the vibration of the sub trying to do something but no real bass comes out.
I decided that my goals when building the system were too modest and I do want a sub that can crank (if I want it to). I don't want to change my AMP (it's installed upside-down under the rear deck and it would be HELL to remove again).
I want a sub that can reproduce ALL the low bass in rap songs I listen to, but I also want a sub that can react quick enough to do heavy metal duty.
I'm thinking I want a 15" DVC sub since it should be able to go the lowest and I'll put it in the smallest sealed enclosure it would be rated for. This is the one I'm looking at specifically:
Alpine SWR-1522D Type-R 15" subwoofer with dual 2-ohm voice coils at Crutchfield.com
Any suggestions/comments? I was told that if I want that bass drum "pop/snap" that a lot of the preceived "tightness" comes from the mid-bass speakers (the crack-off of the drumstick hitting the drum). I need to replace the 5.25" midbass in the front kick panels, but the stock BMW speaker is very shallow and I don't want to cut up the car. At most, I'll replace them with new OEM units. Would this help?
The sub seemed to get really great reviews everywhere I searched on loudness and crispness... am I going overboard?