Most poeple will tell you that pyramid ***** right off the bat. How many of those people have actually dealt with or used Pyramid, I don't know. They are not Rockford Fostgate and they are not JL. But for $30 a sub you can't complain too much. I have been using a pair of 8 ohm 15 inch subs made by Pyramid (pro sound subs) for something like 5 years now. They sound decent and have never been a problem. They cost $75 each. A person who deals directly with the Pyramid company explained this to me which may help: Most Pyramid products are now made over seas. These are cheaply made pieces of crap. Pyramid does, however, still make American made products. These products are the same subs that I have been using for around 5 years now. I plan on testing out a blue pro Pyramid sub for my new truck soon. For $30 I will not be at a loss if it doesn't work out. I think that the reasons so many poeple dislike Pyramid are for one, they don't have the best reputation so most poeple will tell you that they **** with out actual knowledge of the product. 2 - Pyramid is in a lower class that kicker and Rockford and other high end products. 3 - Pyramid is not as 'cool' as Rockford and others, so image is an issue. My advice is to listen to Pyramid and see if the sound will satisfy you. If yes, then be careful not to abuse the sub. Lower class subs can't handle much abuse.