where to buy HERTZ amps?

[Horsemanwill 10+ year member]

double post

 

[00poop6x 10+ year member]

... of course we all know a TON of **** is coming from there now anyway

It usually turns into **** here from the trans-shippers, that's why it comes out like that //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[DAATH 10+ year member]

now... back to the topic. i found a very good authorised HERTZ dealer for a great price. i knew if i bltched enough i would achieve my final goal. regardless of what any of you say... mom and pops and chain stores need to cut us a break... period!!!!

 

[It Hertz 10+ year member]

and what will you do in return??? talk about about us on a forum where how many of those people actually live near the shop you went to???

I am all for helping out the DIY'ers actually have a a couple of very good customers that I have never worked on their cars, they shop my store buy our products (with out *****ing about hte prices) I will give them deals now and then and we help them with tuning and tech support. in return these guys promote my shop, sport our logos and will talk up the products we sell to people they meet at shows and comps in our area that may and do show up in our shop.

I am glad you found the products you were looking for, the Hertz gear is great stuff I run some in my vehicle and can say it is some of the best.

But, please consider that your attitude towards the B&M stores will reflect in how they treat you.

just some food for thought.

 

[DAATH 10+ year member]

and what will you do in return??? talk about about us on a forum where how many of those people actually live near the shop you went to???
I am all for helping out the DIY'ers actually have a a couple of very good customers that I have never worked on their cars, they shop my store buy our products (with out *****ing about hte prices) I will give them deals now and then and we help them with tuning and tech support. in return these guys promote my shop, sport our logos and will talk up the products we sell to people they meet at shows and comps in our area that may and do show up in our shop.

I am glad you found the products you were looking for, the Hertz gear is great stuff I run some in my vehicle and can say it is some of the best.

But, please consider that your attitude towards the B&M stores will reflect in how they treat you.

just some food for thought.

again... we don't need to pay for advise and we buy more gear than the average bass-head joe. kinda like buying in bulk... should get a discount. i buy new crap a couple of times a year. got a basement full of stuff.

 

[It Hertz 10+ year member]

so you think I owe you a discount because you buy 4000 dollars worth of gear a year??? yeah that so out weighs the other 1000 customers that spents that much, not to mention the customers I have that drop 30 or 40 k a year to work up their new car. or the the other countless customer that shop our stores.

So, when you need that system tuned who does it, as I am sure every one of the DIY'ers including you (espically YOU) have an RTA, and o-scope to properly tune everything you build.

and in 25 years in the business, I have known few do it yourselfers that did not EVER some kind of advise, but you obviously know everything about everything so I will leave you to that.

 

[frmdrkside 10+ year member]

How come this doesn't occur in other industries such as commodities? And why is it up to the manufacturer to protect Store A? This certainly doesn't happen with other electronics, such as televisions.
It just doesn't seem like the customer who would rather not pay for the service has many alternatives. In other industries, such as home improvement, where you can go to a real hardware store, pay extra for the advice and service...or you can go to Lowe's and get treated more or less like a herd of cattle. The customer here is indicating price sensitivity. It seems like the transhippers understand those customers; whereas the B&Ms do not.

This does happen in other industries. In televisions Sharp, Mitsubishi and to some degree Samsung and LG all do B&M dealer protected areas. How about iPods, apple doesn't just let anybody retail iPods.

How about other retail markets.

Try and go to Lowes and buy some craftsman screwdrivers, or maybe a rigid table saw. Go to Wal Mart and buy some Lucky Jeans, or Anchor Blue. You can't just go buy Krylon spray paint at any hardware store. How about a brand new Toyota from a Ford dealership.

These are just a few examples, off the top of my head, of manufacturers that have controlled distribution. They control there distribution for various reasons. Maybe it's warranty, or buying experience, or customer support, or price/value control. Whatever the reason, it's no different than what car audio manufactures are doing.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Josh, this is 2008, buy ins are a thing of the past and any company that requires it is just plain silly.
Now in your position you should also be able to appreciate how this can affect economy as well. Largely? Of course not, but does it still? Absolutely. How you ask ... Well lets use Texas as the transhipping point ... of course we all know a TON of **** is coming from there now anyway. So we have national B&Ms throughout the country, BUT 80% of numbers are going into TX. So out of my state and into theirs. See where Im going?

Lets go a step further ... beating the containers prior to check in at the docks.. its not there so how can we apply duties? U.S. now does not collect, but the product still made it in. Again car audio .. obviously not large scale, but these acts are not limited to just car audio and yes they happen more than any of us would care to know.

These things are things I didn't know. Again, although this thread was more or less derailed, I think there was some valuable information to learn here.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

This does happen in other industries. In televisions Sharp, Mitsubishi and to some degree Samsung and LG all do B&M dealer protected areas. How about iPods, apple doesn't just let anybody retail iPods.
How about other retail markets.

Try and go to Lowes and buy some craftsman screwdrivers, or maybe a rigid table saw. Go to Wal Mart and buy some Lucky Jeans, or Anchor Blue. You can't just go buy Krylon spray paint at any hardware store. How about a brand new Toyota from a Ford dealership.

These are just a few examples, off the top of my head, of manufacturers that have controlled distribution. They control there distribution for various reasons. Maybe it's warranty, or buying experience, or customer support, or price/value control. Whatever the reason, it's no different than what car audio manufactures are doing.

I don't support Apple for this very reason.

P.S. If you go to Lowe's, you are buying Craftsman screwdrivers, they are made by the same company.

My argument is an ideological one based on my beliefs about promoting competition. I am trying to see the business case for protecting stores.

 

[Radioactive1]

first, the manufacturer sells too high from the begining, just because it's a specialty/luxary product... something you really don't need. lets focus our energy on these sorry fvck's. why do you think sooo many new car audio manufacturers are popping up? it's a very lucrative business. hardly any of the product is original. all you need is a parts list catalog, order your stuff and put your name on it. how much do you think it cost a company to build one DLS A3(retails for $750)? you can throw in shipping cost, taxes, blah blah blah... it cost dls about $30 to build that amp. they sell it to distributor for $300. you do the math. these fvcks charge too much, and were tired of it. diyer's spend more time and money on new gear, and we offer free advertising here. we should get breaks not only because were cool like that, but because we don't need expert advise to go with the product.

What kind of business do you own?

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

first, the manufacturer sells too high from the begining, just because it's a specialty/luxary product... something you really don't need. lets focus our energy on these sorry fvck's. why do you think sooo many new car audio manufacturers are popping up? it's a very lucrative business. hardly any of the product is original. all you need is a parts list catalog, order your stuff and put your name on it. how much do you think it cost a company to build one DLS A3(retails for $750)? you can throw in shipping cost, taxes, blah blah blah... it cost dls about $30 to build that amp. they sell it to distributor for $300. you do the math. these fvcks charge too much, and were tired of it. diyer's spend more time and money on new gear, and we offer free advertising here. we should get breaks not only because were cool like that, but because we don't need expert advise to go with the product.

again... we don't need to pay for advise and we buy more gear than the average bass-head joe. kinda like buying in bulk... should get a discount. i buy new crap a couple of times a year. got a basement full of stuff.

I think this is where we part ways....

1st - there isn't that much money in car audio, there just isn't. One division of Lowe's had more sales than the entire car audio industry. That's about 400 stores. (I read in CA&E that car audio is about a $6B industry)

2nd- While it may not cost $400 in parts to build the DLS A3, it definited doesn't cost $30. Come on now. DLS has overhead as well, and those things must be priced into the product. Plus, there is thing called profit. Without it, they wouldn't be in business. And I highly highly doubt there are making that much money. If they were, private equity would be snapping up the companies left and right.

3rd- I don't think we should be compensated (in any form) for our personal reccomendations on products. I think that is a bit of a stretch.

4th- I don't think volume purchases entitle one to discounts. In theory (I do not operate a business), large volume customers can cost a business more money than a small volume customers, especially if there is a lot of time and energy involved on an already low-margin product.

 

[DAATH 10+ year member]

What kind of business do you own?

private investigation...

 

[It Hertz 10+ year member]

How in the hell do you have any clue about product sales being a PI, having done private security, I know there is nothing you sell other then a serivce. you do not offer any products... you over head is very limited as you do not need a large facility. you probably have no employees, I doubt you have to carry liability insurance and if you do it is not a lot.

you have no inventory to stock, so I do not beleive you have any clue about how WE (the car audio SPECIALIST) do business.

 

[atsaubrey 10+ year member]

Where in the world do you people come from? I dont know where you work but I think I should let you go because I can hire an illegal immigrant for much less, will you give me a break on YOUR paycheck because I think YOU are OVERCHARGING me for the work you perform! Now think about that for a second, isn't that somewhat what your asking the B&M shops to do?

 

[alvitae 10+ year member]

I wanted a certain amp this spring. I went to my local shop and looked into it. I then went online and found it for 1/3 the cost.

I had no problem with the order and so far no problem with the amp. If I did though I could just buy two more and still be about the same as if I had bought the shop's amp.

It's worth the risk of warranty issues at those prices for me.