Nutz 10+ year member
Team Nutz, Pgh PA
So you didn't play the sub until you put in the new alternator?
Are these your posts? not sure. I believe KMK is your name on realm?
June 20: This is the day after you left my shop and I told you not to play it until you have the alt......
June 21Then next is when you said you video taped the system playing.....after I said not to......
July 2 you admit to voltage droping and a system cutting out......But how would you know this unless you played your system after I told you not to....
But again it worked when you left Team Nutz, just didn't take there advise.
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06-20-2007, 07:39 PM #144
KMK
Banned
my buddy who's good with this stuff blew me off as far as helping me tonight. i wanted to get this fixed, so i called the install place and *****ED. he said bring it down we will go over it WITH you, which i figured hey they have the tools, i'll be watching, its all good.
he took the sub out, re-did the wiring PROPERLY, i even showed him the diagram, put the sub back in - magic - it's hittin.
BUT.
when he was connecting the voice coils to this little yellow bastard to show me the excursion, one side's voice coil did not move as far as the other one did. he said that could be a manufacturer defect..
i also now have 2 sets of wires since he tied both vc's into each other..watched him do it.. which he thinks fixed the main issue of no bass..
it's definately bangin, but there are some concerns..
i was hearing a literal 'scratching' noise coming from the sub, while idling @ volume 0. it was doing it at higher volumes also. it literally sounded like errrrr errrrrr but almost a scratching noise. called the install guys again.. he said he doesnt know what it could be, we didnt hear it when we tested it out, but he did say my alternator was dropping voltage occasionally which could account for the sub cutting out at certain times and the amp was going into protection..
so basicaly.. i have bass now, but it still needs tweaked. also, it seems that on the low notes instead of gettin real real low and rumbling i can see everything shaking in my car, but outside its not even noticable.
on my head unit there is a x-over option, if selected you can choose like 60hz, 80hz, 100hz, 160 hz, etc etc. what should that be set on?
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06-21-2007, 02:42 PM #177
KMK
Banned
well another update..
apologize for the videos, didnt convert right. i'll try to make some new ones.
(how do you make video's without playing the system???)
about the excursion not being the same on both voice coils when tested, RE said this is normal for the new XXX.
anyway, i talked to RE about the screeching/scratching noise coming from the sub. they said it just sounds like ANOTHER bad wiring job and/or a bad ground somewhere.
i finally got my buddy to get off his ass and help me today, HOPEFULLY, so we are going to take it out, HOPEFULLY re-wire it the correct way and maybe re-do the ground if possible.
more than likely the sub is okay, but the wiring is effed apparently.
funny thing is, the shop won't take responsibility because i didnt BUY IT FROM THEM.
RE was already notified about the shotty customer service and ****ty installs being as they are an authorized RE dealer. i hope to god RE drops those ****s.
and a side note:
to the ****s who say i'm stupid or this thread is stupid, take your gerbil nuts and get the **** out.
and this is also a temp. setup. i'll be getting a new car in a year or so at which point who knows what happens.
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07-02-2007, 02:25 PM #1
KMK
Banned
In your OPINION - what should I do?
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Ok. A good portion of you saw my previous thread about my XXX 18 and the ensuing problems after i had it installed at a local install bay.
I also have a video on here of the sub making a scratching noise.
This is where I need some guidance on what exactly to do. I'm actually having a guy whos apparently AWESOME with installs give me a call and maybe help work me through some issues im having with my electrical system/subs etc..
I know my alternator is dropping voltage like crazy because my bass is cutting out randomly, and a lot. Two questions that relate to this issue... can severe voltage drops cause music/bass distortion? i know voltage drops can 'injure' or damage an amp, BUT, can it affect sound quality? like my subs (either the xxx or the 2 sx's) will still hit hard as hell, but it seems as if theres a 'hardness' to the bass, and its not that deep low soft bass (you know what im talking about).. could this change in sound quality/bass be due to the voltage drops or does it sound like the amp has been damaged?
Also. To those of you who saw the sub video i had with the scratching noise.. the voice coil on my sub looks fine. nothing is 'unraveling'. could that scratching noise be attributed to something else such as an amp issue or alternator issue? or does that sound like a sub-specific issue and it needs replaced/repaired regardless?
i'm asking all these questions because i need to narrow down the problems to the TRUE issue at hand, because i would hate to have the sub repaired/replace and when it came down to it it be an alternator or amp issue.
about the alternator.. my stock alternator & battery worked PERFECT (even at 105 amps) with my 2 sx 12's. after i put an aftermarket 200 amp alt in, i had engine whine with a 'humming' coming from the subs. this is on 4 gauge wire from alt to battery. i had this install bay (cough cough) swap out the aftermarket for the stock again, and put in an optima yellow top - now my voltage is dropping like crazy apparently, and the bass is distorted/cuts out and doesn't sound as good as it used to. (and i've tested both the sx's and the xxx)
so what would you guys recommend i do? send sub out for repair/replacement ? (voice coils reading 2.4-2.6 each) send out amp for repair/check up? or does all these issues sound like the alternator & voltage drops?
Are these your posts? not sure. I believe KMK is your name on realm?
June 20: This is the day after you left my shop and I told you not to play it until you have the alt......
June 21Then next is when you said you video taped the system playing.....after I said not to......
July 2 you admit to voltage droping and a system cutting out......But how would you know this unless you played your system after I told you not to....
But again it worked when you left Team Nutz, just didn't take there advise.
*****************************************
06-20-2007, 07:39 PM #144
KMK
Banned
my buddy who's good with this stuff blew me off as far as helping me tonight. i wanted to get this fixed, so i called the install place and *****ED. he said bring it down we will go over it WITH you, which i figured hey they have the tools, i'll be watching, its all good.
he took the sub out, re-did the wiring PROPERLY, i even showed him the diagram, put the sub back in - magic - it's hittin.
BUT.
when he was connecting the voice coils to this little yellow bastard to show me the excursion, one side's voice coil did not move as far as the other one did. he said that could be a manufacturer defect..
i also now have 2 sets of wires since he tied both vc's into each other..watched him do it.. which he thinks fixed the main issue of no bass..
it's definately bangin, but there are some concerns..
i was hearing a literal 'scratching' noise coming from the sub, while idling @ volume 0. it was doing it at higher volumes also. it literally sounded like errrrr errrrrr but almost a scratching noise. called the install guys again.. he said he doesnt know what it could be, we didnt hear it when we tested it out, but he did say my alternator was dropping voltage occasionally which could account for the sub cutting out at certain times and the amp was going into protection..
so basicaly.. i have bass now, but it still needs tweaked. also, it seems that on the low notes instead of gettin real real low and rumbling i can see everything shaking in my car, but outside its not even noticable.
on my head unit there is a x-over option, if selected you can choose like 60hz, 80hz, 100hz, 160 hz, etc etc. what should that be set on?
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06-21-2007, 02:42 PM #177
KMK
Banned
well another update..
apologize for the videos, didnt convert right. i'll try to make some new ones.
(how do you make video's without playing the system???)
about the excursion not being the same on both voice coils when tested, RE said this is normal for the new XXX.
anyway, i talked to RE about the screeching/scratching noise coming from the sub. they said it just sounds like ANOTHER bad wiring job and/or a bad ground somewhere.
i finally got my buddy to get off his ass and help me today, HOPEFULLY, so we are going to take it out, HOPEFULLY re-wire it the correct way and maybe re-do the ground if possible.
more than likely the sub is okay, but the wiring is effed apparently.
funny thing is, the shop won't take responsibility because i didnt BUY IT FROM THEM.
RE was already notified about the shotty customer service and ****ty installs being as they are an authorized RE dealer. i hope to god RE drops those ****s.
and a side note:
to the ****s who say i'm stupid or this thread is stupid, take your gerbil nuts and get the **** out.
and this is also a temp. setup. i'll be getting a new car in a year or so at which point who knows what happens.
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07-02-2007, 02:25 PM #1
KMK
Banned
In your OPINION - what should I do?
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Ok. A good portion of you saw my previous thread about my XXX 18 and the ensuing problems after i had it installed at a local install bay.
I also have a video on here of the sub making a scratching noise.
This is where I need some guidance on what exactly to do. I'm actually having a guy whos apparently AWESOME with installs give me a call and maybe help work me through some issues im having with my electrical system/subs etc..
I know my alternator is dropping voltage like crazy because my bass is cutting out randomly, and a lot. Two questions that relate to this issue... can severe voltage drops cause music/bass distortion? i know voltage drops can 'injure' or damage an amp, BUT, can it affect sound quality? like my subs (either the xxx or the 2 sx's) will still hit hard as hell, but it seems as if theres a 'hardness' to the bass, and its not that deep low soft bass (you know what im talking about).. could this change in sound quality/bass be due to the voltage drops or does it sound like the amp has been damaged?
Also. To those of you who saw the sub video i had with the scratching noise.. the voice coil on my sub looks fine. nothing is 'unraveling'. could that scratching noise be attributed to something else such as an amp issue or alternator issue? or does that sound like a sub-specific issue and it needs replaced/repaired regardless?
i'm asking all these questions because i need to narrow down the problems to the TRUE issue at hand, because i would hate to have the sub repaired/replace and when it came down to it it be an alternator or amp issue.
about the alternator.. my stock alternator & battery worked PERFECT (even at 105 amps) with my 2 sx 12's. after i put an aftermarket 200 amp alt in, i had engine whine with a 'humming' coming from the subs. this is on 4 gauge wire from alt to battery. i had this install bay (cough cough) swap out the aftermarket for the stock again, and put in an optima yellow top - now my voltage is dropping like crazy apparently, and the bass is distorted/cuts out and doesn't sound as good as it used to. (and i've tested both the sx's and the xxx)
so what would you guys recommend i do? send sub out for repair/replacement ? (voice coils reading 2.4-2.6 each) send out amp for repair/check up? or does all these issues sound like the alternator & voltage drops?