Alpine type r va power acoustic gothic

[Mellowmatt92]

So this is just pure curiosity. I currently have two alpine type r 12’s. I was wondering how two power accoustik Gothic series 12’s would compare to my alpines? The gothic seems to be a louder sub just by looking at it and researching. Any one got any input on this? My alpines are the old style. Type r sw122r I believe. DVC 2 ohm. The alpines have 600-750 rms each and the gothics have 1200 rms each

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[kr15 5,000+ posts]

Look at the Q factors. The gothic has a very weak motor. It will need a large box

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Power Acoustic is garbage. False specs and low quality.

 

[BOOMINGRANDPA 5,000+ posts]

those rms ratings are overrated.. even if u get a sub that does handle more power then u probably need more power for it to get loud.. if u are stay with same amp then u need subs that are more efficient than ones u have to get louder.. are your subs sealed or ported/ if ported what is box tuned at (or what kinda of box is it) what amp do u have?

 

[Mellowmatt92]

those rms ratings are overrated.. even if u get a sub that does handle more power then u probably need more power for it to get loud.. if u are stay with same amp then u need subs that are more efficient than ones u have to get louder.. are your subs sealed or ported/ if ported what is box tuned at (or what kinda of box is it) what amp do u have?

I have a planet audio pulse 4000.1. Not the best amp. But it’ll rattle my car with them two alpines. Slot ported dual 12 box tuned to 34 Hz

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

So this is just pure curiosity. I currently have two alpine type r 12’s. I was wondering how two power accoustik Gothic series 12’s would compare to my alpines? The gothic seems to be a louder sub just by looking at it and researching. Any one got any input on this? My alpines are the old style. Type r sw122r I believe. DVC 2 ohm. The alpines have 600-750 rms each and the gothics have 1200 rms each

your alpines have a stronger motor and have more cone control and overall woofer balance aka it'll be louder and sounds way better and can function in a smaller box than that power acoustik garbage which you will lose both SQ and loudness.

 

[BOOMINGRANDPA 5,000+ posts]

I have a planet audio pulse 4000.1. Not the best amp. But it’ll rattle my car with them two alpines. Slot ported dual 12 box tuned to 34 Hz

u need better amp not subs that does maybe 600rms u need 1200-2k rms.. did u make or have the box made? cause if it's prefab u can't trust the tuning they claim., after sub disp. could be 45hz.. even a rockford 1200 would be huge upgrade but if u want a nice amp to upgrade with wolfram 1500 does 1600rms if u want just more power the audiopipe amps test well for the $..

 

[Mellowmatt92]

u need better amp not subs that does maybe 600rms u need 1200-2k rms.. did u make or have the box made? cause if it's prefab u can't trust the tuning they claim., after sub disp. could be 45hz.. even a rockford 1200 would be huge upgrade but if u want a nice amp to upgrade with wolfram 1500 does 1600rms if u want just more power the audiopipe amps test well for the $..

Yeah my thing is can’t afford a 200 amp

 

[Mellowmatt92]

$200+ amp.

 

[BOOMINGRANDPA 5,000+ posts]

$200+ amp.

ap 1500 tested over 1300rms $131 wlmart and u can buy extended warranty from them cheap too.. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Audiopipe-APMI-1500-1500-Watt-MOSFET-Monoblock-Amp-Car-Audio-Speaker-Amplifier/48123860?wmlspartner=wmtlabs&adid=22222222222035470994&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=e&wl1=o&wl2=c&wl3=10360021748&wl4=pla-4578091554425746&wl5=&wl6=&wl7=&%20wl10=Walmart&wl12=48123860_10000001235&wl14=audiopipe%201500&veh=sem&msclkid=bb557e62fe7b13a7254d255112d6f347 but i'd get this one https://www.walmart.com/ip/Audiopipe-APCLE15001D-1500W-Class-D-Monoblock-Amplifier/226805402?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=1148&adid=22222222222098382574&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=e&wl1=o&wl2=c&wl3=74629416737646&wl4=pla-4578228985556241&wl5=&wl6=&wl7=&%20wl10=Walmart&wl12=226805402_10000001205&wl14=audiopipe%20apcle1500&veh=sem&msclkid=577463c86ccb1f09ca5638fb817cbce0

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Then be happy with what you have.

 

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ap 1500 tested over 1300rms $131 wlmart and u can buy extended warranty from them cheap too.. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Audiopipe-APMI-1500-1500-Watt-MOSFET-Monoblock-Amp-Car-Audio-Speaker-Amplifier/48123860?wmlspartner=wmtlabs&adid=22222222222035470994&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=e&wl1=o&wl2=c&wl3=10360021748&wl4=pla-4578091554425746&wl5=&wl6=&wl7=&%20wl10=Walmart&wl12=48123860_10000001235&wl14=audiopipe%201500&veh=sem&msclkid=bb557e62fe7b13a7254d255112d6f347 but i'd get this one https://www.walmart.com/ip/Audiopipe-APCLE15001D-1500W-Class-D-Monoblock-Amplifier/226805402?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=1148&adid=22222222222098382574&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=e&wl1=o&wl2=c&wl3=74629416737646&wl4=pla-4578228985556241&wl5=&wl6=&wl7=&%20wl10=Walmart&wl12=226805402_10000001205&wl14=audiopipe%20apcle1500&veh=sem&msclkid=577463c86ccb1f09ca5638fb817cbce0

If he can’t afford a $200 how can he afford a power supply for that?

 

[Mellowmatt92]

I never once said I was not happy with what I have. Nor did I say I had any intentions of changing. I was simply curious as to how the gothics would compare.

 

[BOOMINGRANDPA 5,000+ posts]

I never once said I was not happy with what I have. Nor did I say I had any intentions of changing. I was simply curious as to how the gothics would compare.

they don't

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

The Rz are one of the better cheap mainstream woofers.

 

[Mellowmatt92]

Honestly if I’m only pushing them to half potential I wouldn’t be able to handle them at full power daily. The pressure they create now is enough to hurt my ears sometimes lol.